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Reading in Canoeroots magazine that whitewater

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:11 pm
by Crunchy
canoe paddlers keep their lower hands (sic) above the gunwale.
(Vol 10. No. 1 page 23)
What do you do?
Bottom hand above the gunwale, level or below?

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:41 pm
by Shep
I move my lower hand depending on my reach. For close-in strokes, especially when I am trying to get a lot of power, my hand is generally at or below the gunwale.

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:16 pm
by pblanc
Below the gunwale, nearly always.

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:40 pm
by coloradopaddler
my lower hand is almost always below the gunwale. it would seem that you would have to choke way up on the shaft to keep it above the gunwale.

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:16 pm
by redbeardcanoeworks
That's an interesting question. Take a look at all the photos shot at ALF. nearly everyone has their bottom hand about halfway up the shaft rather than down low. Before you answer "below the gunnel" look at a picture of yourself paddling.
I tend to keep my hand very low. I first realized this when my hand was always cold and wet. Then in looking at pictures I realized I kept my hand right at the top of the blade. I made a wood paddle this winter and purposefully made a long blade just to keep my hand higher!
It would seem you have more control and power with a lower hand but better reach with a higher hand.

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:11 pm
by Paddle Power
How about a poll?

My hand is above.

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:12 pm
by markzak
mine is above too, always

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:15 pm
by Craig Smerda
does riding on a low brace all the time count as "below the gunnel"? :lol:

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:46 pm
by John Coraor
Below, but I paddle C-1 more frequently than OC-1.

John

re Hand above or below gunwale?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:58 pm
by Hans Vidkjer
When I started, I was told, by a big name instructor who's name you'd all recognize, that in whitewater the shaft hand should always be above the gunwale.
A couple of weeks ago I was told, by another big name instructor who's name you'd all recognize, that the shaft hand should be only an inch or two above the blade, which certainly places that hand below the gunwale.
What are the pros/cons of either grip position - anyone care to comment?

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:05 pm
by TonyB
above gunnel keeps me from smackin my thumb on the gunnel.

higher up makes it easier for me to do cross strokes

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:06 pm
by Shep
Pros for high-hand... not banging your knuckles on the gunwale. Long reach.

Pro for low-hand... converting the maximum amount of force at your shaft hand into force on the water.

Shep

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:54 pm
by philcanoe
This is a class 3 lever...

[img]http://www.legoeducation.us/sharedimage ... _lever.gif[/img]

... where you would want to place effort depends on several things. The amount of force needed, the amount available, the velocity desired, probably others.... Google it for yourself.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:29 pm
by milkman
What if you're paddling class 4 or 5? :lol:

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:10 pm
by philcanoe
We would ;) be seeing the video...