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Wait, the Raven is MORE stable than a Nitro? The Nitro's already a tank!

How do he speed of the Diesel and Habitat compare? In general, will a similar size "river runner" or creeker be faster? It seems to me that speed isn't as important on a creek but then again, a little extra acceleration is always going to help on the real gnarly stuff I guess

Maybe slow boats just aren't appealing?

Wendy wrote:If the three month is the Maxim can you give a rough estimate for Probe 12 timetable in plastic?

Hm, haven't seen much talk about the Probes... how do they compare to the Vipers? A lot of people seem to like the Viper 12 for that size boat, is the Probe less edgy or something?

C-1ers don't have to swim often to be in danger of falling out... you're in a smaller area and a little bit tighter than an open boat I guess and the skirt does a lot, but in the end it's pretty much the same kind of outfitting you're going to get pulled out of... you're right it's harder to fall ou...

If there was a boat for everything I know we'd all have it, the fink is not great for smaller guys for example. Is it just too big to swing around easily? I'm noticeably too small for the Atom at 160# and as I'd been told, I can't really stern squirt it... coming out of an eddy with a lot of upstre...

Longboatin wrote:
p.s. I realiably don't havta roll...

But wait, isn't that 'cause you paddle a barge?

Do more C-1ers than OC-1ers have a roll? C-1's can be very capable, but some are unpredictable and C-1ers play more than openboaters. This contributes to them needing to roll a lot more often. Plus, they're much easier to roll. In an OC-1, especially knowing that a flip means a swim, I'll nearly nev...

I'm a big fan of thigh straps over bulkheads for a few reasons, but these reasons might not apply to very many people... just some thoughts. For me, the adjustability that straps give you over a custom carved bulkhead is very important. Not only so I get boats second (or third or fourth) hand, which...

What are people's thoughts on the Quake? I paddled with a guy in one on the Farmington about a month ago, he says it's pretty stable, easy to roll, boofs great (that makes sense... to me it looked like a long skinny beach ball! Huge volume), but he says it's pretty wet. How does something with so mu...

That depends... what rough price range would it be? A premade pedastal would be easier but probably less comfortable than foam... if it wasn't quite a bit cheaper than minicell I'm not sure I'd be interested. If it is cheaper than I definitely would be... that said, personally I won't be outfitting ...

Ive noticed two terms or concepts, bandied around the forum here lately that Im not sure i understand 1. edge to edge transition - like this has something to do w/ hull design, besides maybe width? I think this is a matter of primary stability-- or lack of it. Also I guess that a boat could hang on...

I go to Kroka every summer, might be going on a semester program and/or apprenticing there next year... it's an incredible place. I wouldn't say it's a traditional "summer camp", but that might be a good thing. All the people there are great. Also, going there on a paddling trip with them, you're go...

Sounds reasonable... I'm a fan of a relatively hard-chined boat as it is so it makes sense to stay away from those.
What about the plastic makes it any more difficult to weld than another brand's boat though?

What are the issues with them? I can't find much discussion of them anywhere