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... all in there) so its been used very little and just rode around on a padded mechanics creeper in the crawlspace (cement floor). We are keeping the Torrent and a foam floored whitewater inflatable. It was the highest volume whitewater boat made at the time (and I think most whitewater kayaks today ...

... Batmax would sit far lower still. I have an old Gyramax as well as the Batmax that is for sale, and the Gyramax has 2X to 3X as much volume. The Torrent was designed for a team with an absolute maximum combined weight of about 315 pounds, so if you are around 240 lb in weight, you'd have to either ...

I'm in Niagara Falls area and am interested in either or both boats as an experiment. I am an OC boater for the most part these days, as I am not as small as I used to be.....I gave up my GyraMax when it just plain sat too low in the water.....ugh..... I was thinking about these two boats and possib...

My brother-in-law lives in Trumansburg and teaches at Cornell. Crap! I wish I was in the market. He is coming down this weekend and both boats look really good for their age. Definitely good designs for training and tooling around on rivers.

Awesome c2...prob is I'm in WV

... Valley Boats), kevlar / s-glass layup in vinyl ester resin. In both cases, the hull is intact and only has typical abrasion. The deck of the Torrent C-2 has a deep scratch and there is impact damage on one seamline (both should be obvious in the picture), they are both prepped for patching ...

... aluminum gunnels. Here is a description of what I have been able to accomplish to date: 11' Aire Puma raft Esquif Vertige Esquif Zephr 2 Dagger Torrent sit on top kayaks I am in the process of securing PFD's and helmets, another kayak paddle and some other accessories. Down the road I hope to ...

... whatsoever, I didn't take your original post as negative in any way at all. I sincerely appreciate you sharing your experiences when designing the Torrent C-2's and the complexities of C-2 design in general. My brother (and business partner) Trevor and I raced slalom C-2 from 93-99 and then off ...

... wanting to see the bow more like the "S" version than the "L" version. In making the comparison with the design transition from the Batmax to the Torrent/Torrent XL I was trying to make the point that retention of that sharper "S" bow may not be feasible when scaling up the design to float 2 paddlers. ...

... are shifted further back than most C-2s to have the proper trim and good handling of the boat ie so it's not bow heavy. I know all about the Torrent as I paddled a Batmax for 8-9 years (Max II before that and Zealot after that). We paddled and raced wtih PSOC folks and they built some Torrent ...

Mary: As someone who was a member of the design team for the Torrent and Torrent XL slalom C-2s (from a slightly earlier period than the Grok Shark), I want to note that C-2 design can be even more tricky than designing a new C-1. This isn't said to discourage ...

Nice looking boat, watermite!

We sold our Torrent a few years ago, but still paddle the TorrentXL that we built in '84.

John

Greetings! I have a Torrent C-2 gathering dust - I'd be glad to sell it (see attached picture). This design is from ca. 1983, and was made primarily for mixed teams - the upper combined weight limit for paddlers is about 315 pounds ...

... with the Gemini series. Late 70s into the early 80s the Paramax & ParamaxII were the dominant C-2s. By the 83' race season newer C-2s like the Torrent (followed by the TorrentXL in '84), the Triumph, and other designs were appearing. Judging by the photo, that Seda model seems to be somewhere ...

icyone wrote:Torrent XL -- best enders ever

or actually the original Torrent with the big wings -- with a light enough pair and a 99.9% roll

Me too! There's nothing as much fun as paddling with a partner in C-2 and I still use my old Torrent XL.

John