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I'm looking to pick up a used Dagger or Mad River Legend or Esquif Canyon or evergreen starburst or a similar, grade 2-3 whitewater river tripping canoe. I live north of spokane in Nelson, BC but would consider a road trip or shipping for the right canoe. Kalispell, ...

... that I've ever done such before.)) My son and I made a cargo net out of webbing that was very similar to the one in your picture. Used it in our Starburst. Worked great and could be used to cover gear or a centre air bag. dave

14' fiberglass tub unknown manufacturer Mad River Revelation Swift Dumoine Evergreen Starburst Evergreen Sunburst II Dagger Ovation Swift Raven Dagger Ocoee Esquif Vertige X Esquif Vertige (current) Evergreen Starburst - 2nd, first died (current) Mad River Outrage ...

For the moment, I am totally satisfied with my 3, which include:

Evergreen Starburst - river tripping boat (slightly painful on flatwater)

MR Caption - tandem whitewater (have used for up to 4-day river tripping)

Esquif L'Edge - solo whitewater

dave

... colour a bad name. It doesn't make sense to me that the pigment added to a thin vinyl layer could make any discernable difference. I have a yellow Starburst that's holding up the same as my red Vertige and purple Outrage.

30" in the front, 36" in the rear. This is what I have in my Starburst which is essentially the same boat. Anything more in the front and the bow paddler may not have enough leg room if you use the boat for tripping. Get the largest center bag you can find if doing serious playboating

... spray deck for a tandem and they added fiberglass rims so that they can wear a skirt. This results in a completely dry ride. The converted a Starburst into a covered tripping boat using this setup, replacing the seats with pedestals and moving them a bit closer, shortening the thwarts, and ...

What makes those others "playboats" if the Starburst isn't? I have a Mad River Synergy and a Millbrook Big Boy, and I wouldn't call either one of them a playboat. You can monkey around in them a little better than in a Starburst, but playboat?

Sold

That's a lot of weight for a Caption, VertigeX or other 14er ww boats that do get wet at midships. Might need to go bigger.

No experience with the XL 15 or Pocket Canyon, but might be worth a look. Otherwise, as above Canyon/Starburst or Dimension.

Pat.

starburst is my preference for a full sized boat. otherwise, I'm a pretty big dude and have paddled some in the Esquif Vertige X with passengers who weren't tiny. we weren't a combined 500 lbs...but still, it was completely ...

cheajack wrote:Allow me to rephrase - "Dagger" Caption

You bet MR has crappy rlx... but we don't wanna go about it right now do we?

canyon and starburst are biggy exp boats if you just looking for a duo playboat then maybe the mohawk xl15 would be a good choice...

Esquif Canyon or evergreen starburst much better choices.

My .01$ worth.

... This doesn't give you a whole lot of flotation if the center of the canoe fills with water. I second the advice regarding the centerbag. In my Starburst, we have installed cages for end-bags and for a large centrebag. We have used a "cargo net" made out of webbing to restrain the centre bag. ...

... deal on an ME instead. Our intent is to paddle tandem ww, focusing on class II-III, smaller rivers and streams, a bit sportier than my bluehole starburst. We're a relatively light tandem pair (155# stern, 135# bow). I'd appreciate any thoughts.